Monday, 28 July 2008

Madonna in the Hall Of Fame???

Madonna in the Hall Of Fame???
Current mood: SANTA MARIA!!!
Category: SANTA MARIA!!! Music







Having watched these clips concerning the new book about Madge by her miffed borther Chris, Mrs Giovanni and myself engaged in a thorough discussion as to whether Madge has an iconic legacy that will last way beyond her death...


Mrs G's impression is that Madonna is one of the most important women this century has seen - a symbol of popular female empowerment and strength, who's legacy will exist for centuries...

I see her point - that Madge has gone way beyond music alone and that this diversity of skills and (mainly business) achievements, will ensure her status...

But if that's the case, she'll be an icon of industry, business and celebrity and not music...


Yes boss, as far as I can see, Madonna's key ability has been to 'spin' and sell her image and that when her self run PR machine finally dies down, what'll be left in peoples heads is 'The Immaculate Collection' and not very much else....

Her music certainly doesn't have anything like the power or soul of Edith Piaf, Maria Callas or Billie Holiday and those are the kind of performers who last

And besides, up to now, history has only romanticised and iconified those female performers who've battled addictions and/or died young...


What do you think???



Currently listening :
Maria Callas - Life & Art (2 CD's & Bonus DVD)
Release date: By 2004-11-16

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maryJane

i got the immaculate collection a few years back...and im pretty satisified that i-ve got the best of madonna, in her entirety, right there.
but id trade that in for some edith piaf lps in a heartbeat !!

Posted by maryJane on 16 Jul 2008, 06:35
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

The thing I've noticed with every Madonna LP is how many duff tracks there are - not average or ordinary tracks, but DUFF tracks!!

Musically speaking, the ones who last are the ones with the greatest sensitivites, emotions and souls...

Those aren't the kind of words you really associate with Madge..

Are business people ever remembered with much love??

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 16 Jul 2008, 08:19
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simon

At her very best she is a great singles artist, and at her very worst she is a needy needy whore who would sell her second hand shit stained knickers if she thought she could get someone to pay enough money for em!

Posted by simon on 16 Jul 2008, 18:10
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Nonstop Everything

as i was scrolling through my blog subcriptions, i read the title of this entry as "madonna in the hell of fame???" no other thoughts on this.

Posted by Nonstop Everything on 16 Jul 2008, 21:05
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

That would have been a better title....

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 16 Jul 2008, 21:32
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Wendy

Tut tut PG. You'd think the Pop genre had never been invented.

Wasn't Piccasso a fairly astute business man? It doesn't detract from his talent...and in common with Madonna's work some of it is a bit crap. Prolific doesn't necessarily mean consistent.

Personally I really like the tracks I've heard from her new Lp. But that's just me.

Ta-ta.

Posted by Wendy on 16 Jul 2008, 21:22
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

I take the point, but I don't think Madge is in the same league (in terms of talent) as Picasso...

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 16 Jul 2008, 21:30
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Roger The Record Producer

You should read my latest re Madge.
Let's call her X.
R

Posted by Roger The Record Producer on 17 Jul 2008, 12:20
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

BLIMEY!!!

THE FIRST BEGINNING TO END MADGE LP IS A-COMING!!!

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 17 Jul 2008, 13:47
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

(that should have read 'THE FIRST BLINDING BEGINNING TO END MADGE LP IS A-COMING!!!')

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 17 Jul 2008, 15:59
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The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax

I would like to go on record as saying that Madonna is Great, with a capital G...!!!!

Posted by The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax on 17 Jul 2008, 15:41
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

As what - an icon or a musical force...?!?

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 17 Jul 2008, 15:50
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The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax

BOTH!!!

Posted by The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax on 17 Jul 2008, 15:58
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The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax

...(I may have missed the point of this blog post!)

Posted by The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax on 17 Jul 2008, 16:07
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

Not at all - you've answered the question...

Which albums other than the IC are worth the admission fee???

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 17 Jul 2008, 16:23
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The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax

Well for me, the mid to late 80s stuff is the best...preferably on cassette tape! Listening to the 'True Blue' album brings back poignant reminders of my 12 year old self...

Her first three albums are well worth the admission fee (or naughty download time and effort)...Madonna (1983), Like A Virgin (1984) and True Blue (1986).

Posted by The Official Artist aka Uma Thorax on 17 Jul 2008, 16:49
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Clinker

Like a Prayer is quite a consistantly good album. Smelt nice too!!!

I hope history looks back on these days as pure consumerism. She will be remembered, but what kind of legacy will she leave??

Posted by Clinker on 17 Jul 2008, 14:47
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

This is where Mrs G's maths adds up - the times are consumerism, and Madge is an icon of her times...

Whether you or I are a fan of consumerism is unimportant...

The artists job is to reflect their times...

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 17 Jul 2008, 14:56
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they came from the stars, i saw them

i think mark manning summed madge up the best in 'Bad Wisdom'. For those of you that haven't read it...go and read it!

hj ;o)

Posted by they came from the stars, i saw them on 19 Jul 2008, 14:40
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: THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ :

That was certainly a very interesting take...

Posted by : THE FUTUREPROOF CUDDLING POP BLOG BY PG£ : on 19 Jul 2008, 23:25
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r

the material girl's greatest talent is being the material girl.

Posted by r on 20 Jul 2008, 19:55
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