Sunday, 2 March 2008

FILMY ACTION THOUGHTS VOLUME 3 :: LOOSE CHANGE


Current mood: IT’S TOO BIG....
Category: IT’S TOO BIG.... Music



So...

I was looking for something completely different when I can across the pre-posted vid of David Lynchs viewpoints on the 9/11 documentary Loose Change...

The vid made me think.

It also made me look out and watch the full documentary...


Loose Change is basically a culmination of more or less every conspiracy and unanswered question regarding 9/11. It examines and then re-questions everything that 'happenned'.

It's makers are clearly of the opinion that 9/11 was a US government set up....


When 9/11 happenned, I was living in Prague.

I was at home watching the Tour of Spain bike race at the exact moment of drama, and I remember the commentators mentioning something about a plane crashing in New York.

Much to the chargin of my then girlfriend, I was watching a lot of televised cycling in 2001...



So, not giving too much of a fuck about what might be happening in New York, and being firmly locked into that days racing, I kept with the tour and figured that whatever it was would come to my attention soon enough if it was of any worth....

It was an hour or so after the cycling had finished, that I rememberd the thing about the plane crash, switched the satellite box onto CNN (US version) and like more or less everyone else could barely believe what I was seeing...



Since then, I've not engaged too much with what could and could not have happenned that day. As Mr Lynch says - it's too big, and to get anykind of a knowledgeable opinion you need to know deep science on aeronautics, building construction etc and that kind of shit is way out of my league...


This said, like Mr Lynch, I've always been confused by the Pentagon hit...

That there were countless CCTV camneras covering that moment and that not one image of the plane hitting the Pentagon has ever emerged is extremely odd. Releasing such an image would be the quickest and best way to assure one and all that such a thing happenned - but it's never happenned...

Why??


This issue is one of the many aspects of those events that Loose Change examines...

Yes boss, this film is the kind of documentary that is trying to prove a predetermined point rather to engage in an open debate...

And, to be frank, I'm not fully convinced by it.

I often found the pace too quick. It selectively quotes, blinds with science and purports some truly bizarre and incredible ideas, many of which are easy to knock down on an amateur level let alone from any kind of scientific or political angle...

Furthermore, before watching this, I've also seen many documentaries that have gone a long way to convincing me of the US government version, as well as having watched US CNN 16 hours a day on Sept 11, 12 & 13th...






My ultimate conclusion, is that at this stage it all comes down to who and what you believe...

I certainly saw visual images that suggested that 2 planes hit the WTC, I can also believe that the combined force of the fire and the impact of the planes hitting might well have been enough to knock those towers down...

I don't however believe that a plane hit The Pentagon for many reasons - not least that no image has been released of this event happening and that there's no wreckage of a plane in any available images...

I also don't believe that the 4th plane even existed - again, no wreckage...


Having worked in politics and seen the ways and means used to deal with even minor dissenting voices at very close hand, I'm not naive enough to believe that the US government wouldn't do something like that if it felt it necesary to protect and/or increase it's power and wealth.

I'm also not naive enough to believe that The US has no enemies who would take great delight in doing such a thing to The US if they were able to do it....


Therefore, my overall belief with 9/11, is that time will tell.

All empires need to maintain their power, but once that power dissipates, the truth of how they went about building and manitaining it often becomes clear for all to see...



Currently listening :
From the Secret Laboratory
By Lee Scratch Perry
Release date: By 13 June, 2006

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Widow 6-7

we're through the looking-glass PG.

Posted by Widow 6-7 on Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 23:07
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The Van Allen Belt

whether or not all of the information this film presents is true, the questions it asks have been disturbingly absent from the u.s. media. i find the official account to be far more insulting to my intelligence. people want to marginalize dissent as an irrational paranoia w/o having the slightest knowledge of modern history. they don't realize that this isn't a new kind of event for us, just a more dramatic version. the film even says "we'll never know what happened, but we do know what DIDN'T happen."

Posted by The Van Allen Belt on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 03:41
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

Well this is the thing...

For even raising questions about 9/11 you're generally seen as being some kind of paranoid lunatic, but as the powers that be say each time someone critiques DNA profiling or Biometric ID Cards or CCTV on every street corner...

'If you haven't done anything wrong and have nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about...'

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 11:53
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Nonstop Everything

i know the van allen belt. they come from my town and they are irrationally paranoid hippy-types. they just want to believe it's an american conspiracy because they hate america. everyone knows that buildings fall within an hour of ignition. it's happened several times in history. look it up. elevators explode due to air pressure build up from the heat. frankly, the arabs were jealous of our freedom. but we showed them on flight 93 when we banded together and rushed the pilot's pit, kamikaze style. so the american way. and the pentagon plane was flying at such a high speed that it disintegrated upon impact. piece of cake. oh, and the arabs have cloning technology we are unaware of in the mainstream.

Posted by Nonstop Everything on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 19:27
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

ARREST THIS MAN!! HE'S A TRAITOR!!!! LOCK HIM UP!!!! THROW AWAY THE KEY!!!!!!

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 19:29
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

The US government should therefore welcome all debate no matter how outrageous it might sound...

I think the problem the US increasingly has is that it's becoming a laughing stock for the rest of the world...

What with The Kennedy Assasination, 9/11, Iraq and the WMDs that were never there, Vietnam...

Every major national event seems to be a fucking farce of one kind of another..

It's my guess that though all world powers pull dirty stunts, you can't carry on being laughed at each time and stay at the top of the heap...

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 12:05
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Clinker

I'm gonna have to check this film out.

Posted by Clinker on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 10:42
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

http://www.loosechange911.com

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 11:59
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Clinker

Watched it.

JUST ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!!! Thats what I think. If its bullshit then surely they would stand up and answer the fucking questions.

The 3rd and 4th planes just clearly didn't happen...so it has too be said the whole thing looks outrageously conspired by the powers that be.

I'm not that shocked at all though.

Posted by Clinker on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 18:33
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

Like I said above - I think time will eventually tell...

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 18:45
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agent_black.exe

I was persuaded to watch Loose Change 2E based on David Lynch's interview on German TV and was pretty much gobsmacked at the questions that documentary raises... there's something really crooked about the whole terrorist plot and it leaves me believing that if the US Gov didn't set it up they merely let it happen and cashed in on it.

Posted by agent_black.exe on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 18:24
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

I was of the opinion that it was more likely the Bush administration had made the political best of it until relatively recently...

I'm now more inclined to believe elements of the regime had some role in it...

Way back in 1973, then UK Prime Minister Ted Heath was of the opinion that the US was very close to invading the Middle East to seize Oil Supplies..

More details can be read here..

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/jan/01/uk.past3

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 18:55
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Nonstop Everything

that is an interesting article. i feel like we always knew this was the plan in the back of our heads. desert storm left itself open for a sequel. will iran complete the trilogy? or perhaps venezuela? hugo's the new fidel, you know. but we keep our involvement down there under wraps. americans don't seem to even want to know about this stuff. not a very curious country, as a whole. i hate generalizing the whole land, since i personally know the critical thinking end of it. but we are a minority. liberals are definitely the majority, but within that lot most folks still don't care.

Posted by Nonstop Everything on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:02
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

I was very much of the impression that the shindig in The Lebanon a year or so ago was a trial run for the Iran job...

Furthermore, the most cynical and most likely only way The Republicans can get in once again is to be in the middle of a war with Iran on polling day...

I wouldn't put it past them to try it - but I'd be absolutely sure you'll have thousands of bodybags coming back if you try it on with Iran...

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:08
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The Van Allen Belt

yes, we forget that IRAQ couldn't beat iran. iran is the capital of suicide bombers. this trend only started in iraq after our second invasion. we aren't willing to sacrifice our last child for halliburton...

Posted by The Van Allen Belt on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:14
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: THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI :

Iran strikes me as being a pretty cohesive and organised country, whereas Iraq was alot more despotic and Afghanistan is and always seems to be pure fighting chaos...

If The US goes into Iran, I reckon it'll do even worse there than it did in Vietnam...

Posted by : THE BRAVE PRINCE HARRY BLOG BY PIOUS GIOVANNI : on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 20:17
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