A DOUBLE QUICK AND SHORT ONE

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OK...

3 things

Firstly: I'm wanting to fill a couple of gaps in my musical knowledge and am therefore asking if any of you can recomend me some key/good starter for ten recordings by the following bands:

Depeche Mode
David Bowie
New Order

Secondly: Go check these 3 blogs out. If you get excited by rare electronica/reggae/roots/metal there should be something of a feast for you on one or all of them

• A Cracking Roots Reggae Fest Of Downloads and Chat
• A completely blingin blog of musical treats
• MY GOD!!! THIS IS ELECTRONIC HEAVEN

Thirdly: If you're in London tomorrow, don't be forgetting to come along to this free bargain of a night..I know it's located in the middle of trendsville and there's a very good chance you'll be swamped by young media professionals, but the music will be worth it!!

RIGHT: THAT'S IT

Currently listening : Innovator By Derrick May Release date: By 28 October, 1997

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	Misty Waters	New Order - Movement or Lowlife David Bowie - Diamond Dogs or Low Depeche Mode - Violator From Laura and Tommy xx Posted by Misty Waters on Saturday, May 19, 2007 at 21:52 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	Duly noted....PINCH OF SALT!!!!!! :+) Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 01:42 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Edi	From Depeche Mode I like "Music for the Masses" of twenty years ago. "Low" from 1976 is the David Bowie album that I like the most, but I'm only partial to the other two albums of the "Berlin Trilogy" - "Heroes" 1977 and "Lodger" 1979. I could never get into "Station to Station" 1975. I also like "Scary Monsters" 1980, and, from his albums of the '90s, "Outside" and "Hours". "Space Oddity" 1969 was a remarkable discovery for me - there are lots of memorable lyrics on that one. And so it was also "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars" 1971. For me, this was like an early anticipation of how a Roger Waters solo album could sound one day since then... Posted by Edi on Saturday, May 19, 2007 at 22:43 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	Thanks...There's plenty there to be looking into... Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 01:46 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Grinning Ape	size="2">size="2">Bowie and New Order are amongst my all time faves. Are you after individual tracks or albums? I guess if you're saying 10 then it's got to be tracks.. so let's think... avoiding the OBVIOUS OBVIOUS but not just listing of ten obscurities to show off what a bastard I am, my kind of intro TOP 10s of a balance of Best and Intro tracks (GET ON WITH IT..) .. ok DAME BOWIE Speed of Life - (Low - 1977) (One of the best openings to an album ever, filthy glam) Neukoln - ("Heroes" - 1977) (Moody, moody strung out in Berlin instrumental, one of the only times I'd say "Wow, great sax") Stay - (Station to Station 1976) (Funk so tight and white it takes the enamel off your teeth) Hang onto Yourself ( ...Ziggy Stardust.. 1972) -(Randy glam sex on record) Fantastic Voyage - (Lodger - 1979) (The lyrics both cut up and emotive, the guitar.. fuck) Jump They Say - (Black Tie White Noise - 1993) (Great example of edgy plastic pop soul dance Bowie) Heathen (The Rays) - (Heathen - 1997) (Bleak and powerful, touch of the later Scott Walkers) Loving the alien - (Tonight 1984) (Not his most critically aclaimed period but still gems like this, with a lyric as relevant today than.. whenever (1984 by all accounts)) Ashes to Ashes (Scary Monsters) (Not only a majestic song, but the palintive synth on the outro just.. slays the listener ( I have to mention "It's No Game, Pt. 1" from this as well, sorry)) Buddha of Suburbia (The Buddha of Suburbia - 1993) ("Englishman going insane.." we'll, we've all been there). size="2"> Posted by Grinning Ape on Saturday, May 19, 2007 at 22:54 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	This is some detail... Thanks pg:+) Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 01:47 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Grinning Ape	Sorry, I tend to go overbaord, and I know I left out a lot of surefire Bowie classics, .. mind you, he'll get by. NEW ORDER Ecstasy (Power, Corruption and Lies) (Ohhhhh ) Your Silent Face (Power, Corruption and Lies) ("You've caught me at a bad time, so why don't you piss off?", and you can't argue with him) Regret (Republic) (Don't listen to anyone who says this album's shit) World (Republic) (See above) Crystal (Get Ready) (This album is ropey but this song... this.. SONG) The Perfect Kiss (Low-Life) (The perfect pop song, with frogs in as well) "Turn the Heater On" (Peel Session 1982) (.. bloody hell) "Dreams Never End" (Ceremony 1981) (words, again, fail) "Dream Attack" (Technique - 1989) (What a year) "1963" (b-side of "True Faith") (You just can't not mention it) Posted by Grinning Ape on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:43 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	horton jupiter	bowie is probably still making us laugh somewhere even now, but just everything up to and including Let's Dance (yeah, me neither but - get this - Niles Rogers reckons that's an album up there with A Love Supreme and Kind Of Blue!!!) is great. Best ones are obv the 3 Eno productions - Low, Heroes, Lodger, but Station to Station and Young Americans are unbelievable too, and The Man Who Sold The World is a great proggy drugs record. New Order made Ceremony and Blue Monday and Depeche Mode have got rubbish hair-do's. Posted by horton jupiter on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 00:54 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	Good Jesus, there's some woman laughing outside like she's found god....She has a great laugh! All duly noted...I'm gonna get a Depeche Mode haircut just as soon as it grows back... Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 01:51 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Emily	New Order -style="font-style: italic;"> Power, Corruption and Lies: Their first "real" album after Ian Curtis died. In my estimation one of their greatest moments, along with 1983's "Confusion" produced by Arthur Baker, one of the best funky electro songs ever from its time. David Bowie - Personally I think style="font-style: italic;">Hunky Dory and style="font-style: italic;">Low are his best. Depeche Mode - I'm not a massive fan but my favorite songs are Never Let Me Down and Get the Balance Right. I generally don't recommend their 1990s stuff. It was blatantly obvious they were trying to go for Nirvana-ish "rock" vibes to fit in with the 1990s (arrrgggghhh). Posted by Emily on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 02:05 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	Great...Looks like i might be having to download the whole discography..:+) Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 02:19 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	La Paloma, Queen of the Pirates	New Order. Record: Brotherhood. My favorite new order song, not on Brotherhood: Temptation (I think it is on my profile player now) Bowie: Hunky Dory, Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust Depeche Mode: that's tough...I like Black Celebration, though not sure what a true Depeche Mode might say. Posted by La Paloma, Queen of the Pirates on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 02:09 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	I've always had the idea, i dislike all of these acts, but Bowie has seeped into me and New Order coud be next...Depeche Mode might take a little longer... Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 02:21 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	stephen	they're all good man. any of it. even the rubbish. that's the attitude you have to take with these bands. even if it's ball-pinchingly garbage, they're, you know, legends, so you have to make yourself like it. and then you probably will. um, other than that, listen to records made by said artists in the first 10-15 years of their careers. after that they get stupid. it happens to all of us though. seriously... all of them have trodden the path of poo in their latter years. don't let any bloody evangelist-cum-fans tell you otherwise. Posted by stephen on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:05 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Grinning Ape	style="font-style: italic;">um, other than that, listen to records made by said artists in the first 10-15 years of their careers. after that they get stupid. it happens to all of us though. Might happen to you mate, but not Bowie or New Order. style="font-style: italic;"> Posted by Grinning Ape on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:45 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	stephen	so when bowie went all drum & bass that was a good thing? not an old man desperately trying to stay relevant (even though every single person on the planet simultaneously had the same idea of putting jungle beats underneath their weak tracks)? and, boy, do those last 2 new order records pack the same punch as their first ones? i'll hold out though, PG may be right about peaks and troughs... i'm sure the old bastards have some good songs in them somewhere... if they keep on going with their heads up their arses they might actually find a good idea up there, somewhere... Posted by stephen on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 00:19 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	Mmm...It's a fair point. Whatever he's done in the past, I don't see too much coming from David Bowie this last 10 years or so, and that attempt at D&Bass was pretty insipid ... Still at least he's trying...If i were to ask Bowie one question it would be how the hell he got on when he went to live with Fela Kuti in Nigeria. I believe he spent some serious time down there with Mr K and his 27 wives.... Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 00:57 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Grinning Ape	I'm not having a go at anyone because I appreciate that there are general Bowie fans, particularly of his 70s period, then there are Bowie fans who are in for the duration. It's a popular myth that Bowie went DnB for Earthling, and it's common to say "Oh he picked up Drum n Bass to look trendy". He's picked up and dropped more musical styles in his career than .. anyone, why pick on that one? Oh he did Soul on "Young Americans", oh he did Funk on "Station to Station" oh he did Industrial on "Outside" oh he did Anthony Newly music hall folk on his first album. He did folky psycehdelia on the one after that. But beyond that, the album is scarcely "Drum n Bass", it's not fucking Everything But the Girl drafting in Spring Heel Jack to do the backing. It's mix of rock, dance elements, sampled breakbeats are in there on 2 tracks but it's not.. Roni Cunting Size. It sounds exactly like Bowie went, oh, I like this DnB thing, and he's had a go at doing it and made a weird version on a couple of tracks. What about the fact that his work previously has directly influenced "dance" music? Also only 3 out of the 9 album tracks on Earthling could even vaguely be referred to as being DnB influenced is hardly evidence of him "going" DnB. There's more Techno and Industrial if anything on there, and it all fits in with Bowie's work before and after, it's all.. I don't know, the way people go on about it you'd think it was him rapping over some efforts by Olive. If you actually listen to the album you'd hear a pretty good dance / rock, experimental pop album . Though more than that it's a fucking pop record. But there'll always be the people that wish he was still hawking round Glam Rock or that he'd died in Berlin after Lodger. Posted by Grinning Ape on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 20:17 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	This is the big question??? Some no doubt do loose their edge after a number of years and a degree of success, but others just keep it coming - albeit with the odd peak or trough... Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 13:12 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	La Paloma, Queen of the Pirates	i think i still have the idea that i dont like depeche mode... Posted by La Paloma, Queen of the Pirates on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:04 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	stephen	just get yourself a greatest hits to ease into depeche mode... when they're on, they're really on. on-u sound did some great mixes of their earlier stuff, too. Posted by stephen on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:07 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Doctor Yak	DM... one of my all tie favourite tracks is Leave In Silence; I also second Emily on Get The Balance Right! The Combination Mix especially. One album I only heard a little more recently is Construction Time again - quite a few eminently listenable tracks, and not so much of their over-the-top gloom that came along later. Puppets is a good one from when Vince Clarke was around. I like Waiting for the Night from Violator - nice sine waves. Check out some of the B-sides from 1990-ish. For some later material, It's No Good... Hardfloor mix ist gut. World in My Eyes - Alpha Conpiracy Mix. And didn't the KLF do one too? Barrel of a Gun, Underworld Soft Mix. I remember the Ambient Whale mix of Walking In My Shoes being interesting, but haven't heard it in some years. That makes ten depending on how you count, Posted by Doctor Yak on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:10 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Doctor Yak	Bowie... I have a lot of his stuff but still haven't really gotten thru the process of fully digesting it yet... that said, I think I've given Low a few more spins than others. Wasn't that one of the Eno ones?) I'll also second Space Oddity, Man Who Sold The World, and Ziggy Stardust. And many assorted single tracks here & there where I haven't as fully formed opinions of their respective albums... I'd say, if Bowie has started to seep into you, just ride that wave... Posted by Doctor Yak on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:28 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Doctor Yak	Crap! I thought I was a NewOrder fan but All I've heard is... Substance 1987, Republic, some crap compilations, and a single. I'm really pretty ignorant of their albums in the 80s. I recommend Substance; the first disc especially. A couple tracks I had no trouble getting into straight away are Confusion, and Bizarre Love Triangle. Posted by Doctor Yak on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 03:43 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	The Paul Giovanni Music Blog...	Thanks...It's looking like Bowie and New order most definately get the nod...Fewer are convinced by I think I'm gonnna start with Low by Bowie, Power Corruption and Lies by New Order, & Depeche Mode Greatest Hits... Posted by The Paul Giovanni Music Blog... on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 13:16 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Doctor Yak	I don't know how much you may have heard already... Singles 86-98 might be rather good in that vein. Certainly fits the "starter" criterion. And as always - some of the more obscure stuff is better - RIGHT? To get into the right frame of mind, might I suggest drinking until you see triple. Or taking a lot of downers. Hell... why not both? If you can disregard the lyrics, perhaps all the better; the music naturally more tolerable for someone raised on Amiga music. Posted by Doctor Yak on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 16:27 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	piratepods	wish the pirates could make the 5.20 show. it's too late to jet across the pond ;) Posted by piratepods on Sunday, May 20, 2007 at 17:27 [Remove] [Reply to this]

	Madeleine	Okay You have way too many comments already but I dont care. This is exactly the sort of game I like to play because I get to bang on about things I want to bang on about and it sounds like I am being helpful. Ego disguised as concern ego as good samritan. David Bowie - i didnt realise i had too much of this guys cds until…and then theres the records I cant be bothered going through jesus thinking i might have become a completist and not noticed! LOW, Speed of life, Sound and Vision fractious cocaine sea shanties top stuff LODGER - probably my all time favourite from the art work Bowie mimicking MANTEGNA's "Dead Christ" unfortunately isnt done justice on CD tunes - Yassassin, D.J, Look back in Anger(Bowie's nod to John Osborne?)and Boys Keep Swinging ASHES TO ASHES - funk to funky we know Major Tom's a… so tunes Ashes to Ashes, Scary Monsters and Fashion STATION TO STATION - tunes TVC15, Golden Years - the pants the thin white duke stuff the self referential will you still love me when I'm going through my Nicolas Roeg phase got to love a naff popstar HUNKY DORY - tunes Oh you pretty things, Kooks, Andy Warhol, and Queen Bitch ZIGGY STARDUST - cant find but its behind the couch somewhere um Five Years HEROES - V-2 Schneider if budget is the call then LOW, LODGER and HUNKY DORY good thing you didnt ask about an artist I am obsessed with or else you'd be bored witless or maybe you already are NEW ORDER - cant think - everythings gone green;it seems like i've been here before- i dont know just love a bass led melody they couldnt go wrong - well until that mess in Ibiza and over e-indulgence Depeche Mode - such a bad bad name honestly love the high camp early stuff like master and servant but favourite is I feel you from songs of faith and devotion possibly because it is used to such nihilistic effect in the german film GEGEN DIE WEND (head on) thanks for listening/bothering/indulging Posted by Madeleine on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 14:32 [Remove] [Reply to this]

Engrish Professor

good linkups.... don't forget It's Coming Out Of Your Speaker [just added some new material]! Posted by Engrish Professor on Monday, May 21, 2007 at 15:32 [Remove] [Reply to this]