Saturday 30 June 2007

THE RETURN OF THE STOOGES


Current mood: BOORISH
Category: BOORISH Music



So,..,

I think I lost a subscriber on the basis of my unkind words about The Stooges a few days back. The young man in question had only subscribed a few days prior to unsubscribing and today he's bulletined this with the title of 'The best thing I've ever seen on TV'...



So, I'm gonna choose my words carefully here - not for fear of loosing more subscribers or being wrong, but because of the respect I have for Iggy Pop..

Basically, I don't mind if Iggy wants to keep doing it, I'm not listening or buying it - at least not whilst he's with The Stooges, but if they say they're playing, they're obviously playing and i'm nothing on Iggy and should shut my damn mouth.....

Thing is, I can't help but wonder if part of the reason they've returned to performing is because they know that even though they're old and a little tired (Iggy excepted) they can still wipe the floor with the rock bands of today without breaking any serious sweat...

I mean this isn't a great performance - The drumming is slugish and the sight of middle aged men rocking out is always a little unsettling (Iggy discounted - as always - he looks to be about 23)

But I have to hand it to The Stooges. With this performance, they've looked more menacing, threatening and dangerous than any of the other current crop of 'rock bands' that currently bore me to tears on an all too regular basis..

The Fratellis, The Killers, Franz Ferdinand, The Monkeys, Oasis, Snow Patrol...

You see, rebel rock bands in their fifties/sixties shouldn't be able to come back. There shouldn't be room for them. The young pups should be so nasty, voracious and uncharitable that the likes of The Stooges and The Pixies shouldn't even dare try their luck....

But todays bands are no threat, and I reckon Iggy and the boys have taken a good look around and thought 'What a load of fucking shit, we can still do better than that!!!' and they can...

So, in short, the 'successful' return of The Stooges perfectly highlights the current crowd of pretenders as the pussy assed, career rebel, soft shit, wet fucks that they are...



Currently listening :
Twang
By 12 Stone Toddler
Release date: By 01 May, 2007

01:46 - 21 Comments - 9 Kudos - Add Comment - Edit - Remove

Paloma Pirate

Picking on some old men now? I saw the pixies in 2005 and they rocked way harder than the likes of the bands who opened for them. I agree with you on one point, that "there shouldn't be room for them" Unfortunately and fortunately for them, there is.

Posted by Paloma Pirate on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 14:08
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

Old men, Toddlers, Monkeys, Women, Italians - you name it, I'll take a swipe sooner or later...

Maybe the times have changed and there can't be bands with attitude now??? Thing is I've found a few with spunk who are struggling to breathe because the music business is blind...

I blame the catatonic influence of marketing and PR departments staffed by people who don't know innovative music from a fucking apple...

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 14:15
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Paloma Pirate

well, as those of us who love music continue to point out, the biz is run by bankers and insurance companies, and rarely anyone who loves music. oh my god!: is music dead? first it was god...then it was punk...now music as a whole??

Posted by Paloma Pirate on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 16:08
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

No, I'm sure music isn't dead.....There's loads going on and anyone who puts in the hours can find the good stuff no probs..

God and Punk are however dead...

I reckon we delude ourselves that the music business is about or ever has been about talent..

I think people on the whole are a lot thicker than they were in the past, so it's easy for the masses to be duped into acts like The Arctic Monkeys and Oasis and other Beatles covers bands..

I mean, there's no way in hell a Jimi Hendrix would get on 'Top of the Pops' or a John Cage would get on that talent show as in the vid of a few weeks ago, in todays X Factor climate...

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 16:16
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flappy poontours

punk is dad.

Posted by flappy poontours on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 05:30
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

It always has been...

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 10:05
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flappy poontours

punk is papa.

Posted by flappy poontours on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 18:53
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(not a groupie)

Here's what turned me off of The Stooges (via The Henry Rollins Show), like you Paul I have the respect but lack the enthusiasm, (1) Iggy wore red tie-string pajama pants so I saw his junk swinging about and you really can't deny how old that junk is, (2) the bass player, I think anyway it was so unmemorable, looked as though he desperately needed an IV drip feed, and (3) the guitarist, again I think, talked the most and tried to rock out the most, but he's too brain dead from all the drugs and flashbacks. Basically, it's Iggy's junk and a bunch of nerds. Wtf? Shouldn't he be doing retirement commercials like Dennis Hopper. Oh, wait, Lust For Life is on the Carnival cruise commercials ... to sucker the youth out of our elders. Wah.

Posted by (not a groupie) on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 17:15
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

I'd like to see the Hank Rollins Show. I used to have a lot of time for Hank when I was young and ANGRY!!!

The thought of Iggys Junk swinging amidst red jim jams has given me plenty to think about this evening...

I think the thing that disappoints me the most with the Stooges reforming is that I really liked alot of Iggys solo material including that last rather heavy LP...

It seems like a step back to be turning up on The Jonathon Ross show and performing 'Dog' to a whole bunch of people who couldn't give a flying fuck....

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 17:55
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Colossus

I hear what u guys are saying but i honestly think that Iggy's life is on big party. Every avenue just another room to goof off in. He doesn't think. Hejust DOES.
Thats what facsinated Bowie...thats what facsinates me.

Iggy is a big child bringing out the child in us...I say fuck it! Let him o his thing way into his 80's...as long as he is genuinely enjoying it then others will to.

Thats what i can't stand about some bands today.

YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO A ROBERT JOHNSON AN SELL YOUR SOUL FOR THIS THING.
If the masses can hear it in your voice and see IT in your eyes then you CAN be a middleaged man looking crazed.

THE MASSES WANT A MUSICAL MESSIAH DAMN IT!

Spider and the gang x x x x

P.S Snow Patrol are NICE...they don't pretend to be anything else...just wish companies would sign stuff other than NICE. COLOSSUS LOVE GREAT. Elevator music and drive time radio can stick NICE up an old grannies A hole....rant over.

Posted by Colossus on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 18:39
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

You're right - Iggy is instinctive. The Stooges are right for him now and he's doing it and i'm sure he couldn't give a flying fuck about what anyone else says and why should he???

It still doesn't work for me, but who cares??? It's working for plenty of others...

We damn as hell need a few more of his sort around to ruffle feathers and scream in faces and the more I see and hear about you boys the more I beleive we'll get 'em before too very long...

Snow Patrol are boring fucking dirge as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure they're lovely sweet boys, but they make music for poeple who don't like music and I like MUSIC!!!

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Saturday, June 23, 2007 at 19:03
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Ms. De Vill

All this isn't really my cup of tea, as you know....but much praise for the last sentence.

What really got me is the intro....why would you ever care for some 5 year old (can't really be anything else, can he?!?) who runs crying to Mummy as soon as you touch his toy????

Posted by Ms. De Vill on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 00:45
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

I don't care at all. I was just looking for a good way into the piece...:)

I prefer people to get arsey verbally rather than to sneak off silently like I normally do...

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 08:38
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Hijackalope

i have a song called punk rock retirement home
i goes a little something like this:
"Knew Sid Viscious of the Sex Pistols
Can't get regular with Metamucil"

Posted by Hijackalope on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 00:46
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

Is there a verse about Iggy Pop???

The thing I always find wierd about Punk is that it's this facade of hating and not caring about being loved, but punkers tend to need their adoration even more than non punker artistes...

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Sunday, June 24, 2007 at 08:41
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The Evil Bite of Mistress Claudia™

yeah baby...klaxons? one album wonders, can't play for toffee...Iggy? started off a bit lame but got better as the gig wore on, and the bassist was practically screwing the amp which was quite funny to watch. Still, as you said...better than many and it was good to see the crowd anarchy thing freaking out the security. Anyone who can tell me why Iggy said everything twice gets a tongue kiss...love and licks ~MC~ xox

Posted by The Evil Bite of Mistress Claudia™ on Monday, June 25, 2007 at 22:18
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paulzon

"Anyone who can tell me why Iggy said everything twice gets a tongue kiss"

That's one of the first signs of dementia.

Posted by paulzon on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 20:34
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they came from the stars, i saw them

you were at the wrong stage baby x

Posted by they came from the stars, i saw them on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 18:56
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

So, I'm assuming The Stars laid waste to both The Stooges and the Arctic Monkeys?!?

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 20:02
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paulzon

"Iggy discounted - as always - he looks to be about 23"

What were you on that night? from where I was standing he looked older than Mick Jagger and Keith Richards after a particularly rough night.

Posted by paulzon on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 20:24
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Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope

Years ago when i was working in a nightclub, the shift finished and the staff were all watching highlights of a Festival...
A girl who i fancied at the time, looked up at the screaming Iggy and said.
'God, he looks awful. Imagine looking like that when you're middle aged?!'
I was astonished and astounded. I mean if i look thin, muscley, sinewy and am able to jump around with that kind of energy at age 50 odd, I will be very happy indeed...
I mean sure he's a touch wrinkled, but phsically and soulwise he's younger than I am at 32..
Anyway, I said nothing (as per usual), glared at the girl in question and immediately went off her..

Posted by Paul GIOVANNI 3RD a.k.a The Pop Pope on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 at 20:37
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